21 responses to “Resuscitation Of The Newborn”

  1. tie-dyed doula

    This is awesome! The pictures are bringing chills and tears! Thank u! I want to share and learn and I have done both by reading your post. I believe in you and I believe in birth-keep the positivity coming! Shine On-Tie-dyed doula :O

  2. Midwifery is catching

    Great photos – possibly the only ones I’ve ever seen that show a normal birth and a nice blue babe pre-pinking up. You are doing amazing work with this blog.

  3. midwife of the plains

    Thank you so much for this post. I apprenticed w/ a midwife who did not/does not carry O2. Your blog is an inspiration to me. The photos really do tell a story all their own.
    I am new to the blogging world. I am happy I came upon yours.

  4. Sarah Stewart

    Great photos, as usual. Will show them to my midwifery student. cheers Sarah

  5. Sarah Stewart

    Apart from times when you get caught on the hop, would you ever go to a home birth without resuscitation equipment?

  6. Lisa Barrett

    I would if the woman had a preference, mouth to mouth is as good as bagging. I was at a birth last night and I didn’t even get the stuff out of the bag. If you read the work of John Stevenson he didn’t carry anything.

  7. Sarah Stewart

    This is a fabulous conversation and I hope you don’t mind if I disagree with you.

    I actually think you are opening yourself up for major legal problems if you are not ‘properly’ equipped to deal with maternal and infant resuscitation at a home birth and things turn to custard. I am not saying you have to take the ‘Special care baby unit’ with you – oxygen, suction etc can be discretely placed out of the way but at hand if required.

    Often as not, its the ‘didn’t have time to get anything out’ births that are problem free.

    As for woman’s choice – yes, of course you have to regard that. And again, equipment can be kept out of the way but still available. But if I felt a woman’s choice was putting me at risk professionally (she wouldn’t let me have that equipment somewhere at hand), then I would have to seriously consider whether I continued working with her.

    Would be very pleased to hear what others say.

  8. Lisa Barrett

    Of course I don’t mind you disagreeing with me. In the UK it is already common place not to carry O2 and all the research says that suction is of no benefit. It’s all according to what you deem is preparation over what is custom and practice in your area. I do carry O2 and a deelee sucker as it’s what is custom and practice and I would be judged on that if there were a problem. I would always do what the woman wanted which means sitting in the car outside if she’d prefer, but I understand midwives who feel compromised by this.I feel that a woman’s choice is just that and as long as she is willing to own her decision then the responsibility is with her. I am also happy to be a point of contact for women who UC. I don’t consider this to undermine my professional status but enhance it. I too would love comment on this.

  9. Lisa Barrett

    You can see by the pictures that I do have the equipment.

  10. Sarah Stewart

    I have to admit, Lisa, that I am speaking from a rather out of date point of view. It’s been a couple of years since I have done a resuscitation update so I acknowledge that my knowledge isn’t so current as it should be. I haven’t had a case for a couple of years so this will be something I’ll have to attend to when I pick up cases again.

    My context is that I only have a few cases a year and even fewer home births, so I do not have the confidence that I would have if I was practicing full time. This is something I have reflected on in my ePortfolio and NZCOM standards review: http://tinyurl.com/6×46pn

    The way I handle this is to make sure I have excellent back-up.

  11. I am Brooke...

    And again, freakin’ fantastic Lisa!

    You are just an amazing well of knowledge on all things birth!

    I can’t shake the urge to have another baby just so you can catch it ;-) .

  12. sarmakala

    MY 3rd birth was my second UC birth. My son was born face/brow with his cord tight in his nuchal hand. It was a waterbirth, and I was experienced with my 1st UC waterbirth where the baby was relaxed and slower to react to being born, but there was something different with my son, and I knew he needed a little help. I gave him mouth-to-mouth until he responded. We were quite relieved when he started to fuss and pink up.
    I would not have wanted him to be deelee’d or have plastic over his face when this worked fine. (I had done research on it before-hand.)

    Thank you for your excellent website and your dedication to normal, natural birth. =)

  13. pinky

    Lisa: That is not true. We wait 60 seconds before we give the 1 minute apgar. And 5 minutes for the 5 minute apgar.

    We use 100 percent 02 on term babies. Preterm babies we delay the cord clamp and give room air for ppv. However, if they do not resolve we then give o2.

    I have to beg to differ when you say mouth to mouth is just as good. You do not know how much pressure you are putting in the babies lungs with your mouth. With a bag mask, you can measure to make sure you do not over inflate. Over inflate = pneumothorax….Remember 1st do no harm.

  14. Lisa Barrett

    Having been in charge of a unit in the UK and in Australia I know exactly how resus works in a hospital situation. Plus I was talking generally and not about you specifically.

    100% O2 on term babies – there is plenty of research on that and I know how you love evidence Pinky.

    I would love the stats from your hospital that show there has never been a pneumothorax with resus.

    Maybe before saying do no harm you can look at the hospital practice. I have extensive experience in both settings, what about you? How is your homebirth experience going?

  15. Marta

    Thank you so much for this article! I am a doula an aspiring midwife and just discovered your site. You have beautifully answered a question I’ve had for awhile. I doula’d a hospital birth awhile back in which the mother received Stadol twice by injection. No other interventions. The baby was born with one loop of cord and bright blue. About 10 seconds after birth, since he had not started to breathe, they hacked off the cord (blood everywhere) and began to handbag him for 10 minutes before he started to breathe again. He was fine, but I never understood why they had severed the cord. One nurse said it was so that the resuscitation team could reach him, but didn’t the cord still provide him with 02? Would you hazard that he would have “pinked up” sooner had he been bagged with the cord intact?
    Thanks again,
    Marta

  16. Rebekah Costello

    Wow! Thank you so so so much for this post!

    I mentioned a while back that I had an unattended birth that turned out to be footling (surprise!). Looking at these pictures set to rest something I’ve been quietly harboring for the past 17mo. Abigail was born limp like that and not breathing. Heartrate was steady (I could actually feel the cord pulsing between my legs) and she did move her foot once. I didn’t have a bag (obviously) so instead I blew on her face, turned her over and rubbed her back (while trying to keep her head inclined more towards the floor) and turned her back over and just gently sucked out her nose and her mouth with my own. The whole process took less than a minute thirty and she was really letting us know how much she didn’t appreciate the “kiss of life” by the end of it.

    Somewhere in my head I’ve always struggled with telling this part of the story. The few people I’ve shared it with say “Oh well you were lucky she didn’t die”. Maybe so, maybe all of us with living children are. But it’s nice to have solid “proof” in front of me that we did the right things (well, lol, aside form the fact that she’s 17mo old and getting into everything and growing like a weed!).

    Anyway, thank you, this was very informative and I learned some things I didn’t know, too. I do wonder, though, I don’t know if I’d call what we did resus. What do you think? She was pinking up already before I started rubbing her back, just not breathing. she was on the perenium for a good 6 minutes before she was born, too, but she was kicking her feet and moving around quite a bit up until that last minute. I’ve always wondered about that but been afraid to ask.

  17. Marina

    I’m writing from Roma, Italy. During the last home birth I attended the baby was born limp and I had to perform resuscitation and chest massage,well I believe that what really made that baby to “decide” to live was his mother talking all the time to him and calling his name
    Marina

  18. Anonymous

    I just wanted to say you warmed my heart with your post on providing contact for UC women.

    DH and I really love the idea of an UC and also recognize the skill and passion of midwives. It's hard feeling rejected not only by the medical community, but by midwives as well.

    Thankfully we found an amazing midwife who didn't bat an eye at our choices. If she wasn't underground, I would tell every woman I know about her.

  19. nat

    Hi everyone!
    I've really enjoyed reading this blog and will definitely keep an eye out for more info. I'm due in Feb with my 4th bub and my second homebirth. I think alot about this topic and i do believe i need to know more about newborn re sus. You can never have too much information. I'm a huge believer of mothers intuition but i am also aware of things that can evolve that we dont always expect. I'm also just writing to say thanks so much for sharing this information and i'll be looking into this topic more from now! xo

  20. Anonymous

    I just happened to stumble across your blog and found the pictures beautiful!

    I am a PICU nurse expecting my first baby in just a few short weeks (will be a home birth).

    Although I understand the benefits of not clamping the cord to resus, I would personally find it extremely difficult to resus a baby who is being held in his mom’s arms… So although not clamping may appear ideal, I would prefer a quick clamp and cut in order for the midwife to resus more efficiently (on a flat surface, good light etc…)

    But that’s just my out of my own resus experience, if some midwives can effectively resus as you’ve shown then why not…

    Ashley

  21. Rebecca Costello

    Ashley I read your comment (congrats on the new little one coming soon!!) and was wondering: do you think your training on how to resus may be affecting your perspective? I just mean that if you have been trained to do it a certain way and have always done it that way, I could see how imagining doing it differently would seem difficult.

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