14 responses to “Life Matters on Homebirth”

  1. Louise

    I find it amazing that she thinks it is more concerning that HB midwives might let their registration lapse and then give care as a supporter at home than is that HB mw leave practice or are forced to work in hospitals
    She is so firmly sat on the fence she can't move anywhere, let alone forward.

    Shouldn't she be saying this is a human right's issue????

  2. Hannah

    Ah yes, I heard this yesterday, and then found last week's interview with the new president of NASOG. Couldn't believe my ears, and can't understand how she is able to lie outright on national radio.

  3. Rosemary

    I heard the exact same interview and the only reason I didn't chuck a complete mental was because I was driving.

    Why won't the ACM stand up and have their voice heard? Why are they too frightened to actually express an opinion?

    My right to have a homebirth is quickly disappearing down the toilet and the only professional group who can do something about it is NOT FIGHTING FOR ME. I'm fighting as an individual but I'm nowhere near powerful enough.

  4. JoyJohnston

    It's always difficult to cover all points in a radio interview, and I agree that there could be more support for the concept of a midwife's autonomous practice in her own community. Yet, Barb as the EO of the College is required to present the position of its Board, not necessarily her own position.
    In the closing comments Barb said to the effect that (not sure if this is verbatum): The federal and state health ministers have the power to act in the interests of women and babies and prevent homebirth from going underground.
    That's true. The decision of the federal health minister to exclude homebirth and private midwifery practice from indemnity insurance and the linked provisions can be changed.

  5. Lisa Barrett

    I think the position of the board IS the position of the CEO.
    There was also a time where I believed the college would and could make a difference which is why I was working so hard for them.
    I now absolutely without a shadow of a doubt know that their line will not change and they will not chase anything for us. If there is a solution we have to find out for ourselves. I also know 100% that there is no integrity, confidentiality or humility within the national board. Sad for us and the women we support and abolutely devesting for all midwifery in the long term.

  6. pinky

    Wow. Very interesting.

  7. pinky

    Lisa I am confused. Are they actually making it illegal to have a homebirth if someone wants one? Will the Midwife be prosecuted for delivering babies at home? What kind of training and registration do homebirth Midwifes require at the present in Austrailia?

    If this goes into effect, are you going to deliver babies in the hospital?

  8. Rhoda

    This is the first I heard about any "advanced midwifery practitioner" and I can't find anything on the net. What's the deal? I can't listen to the audio cause of a restriction on our internet.

  9. Lisa Barrett

    Pinky Homebirth midwives are trained the same way as everyone else we all hold the same professional qualification. I have been in charge of a busy labour ward. Yes they are making it illegal to birth with us because we are not employed at the hospital.

  10. Lisa Barrett

    They announced advanced practitioner status in the budget. There is no such thing at the moment they just made it up.

  11. pinky

    So will you go back to the hospital? Can you do homebirths if you are employed by the hospital?

    As you know I am not a big proponent of homebirth. And that is fine. But I don't think a Government should make it illegal. What about women who birth at home due to religious preference? Couldn't a woman just refuse to go to the hospital? What concerns me is that women will birth with out attendents at home and I think that is a worst case scenario. A trained midwife at home will increase the odds of having a good out come. I believe the literature indicates that.

  12. Lisa Barrett

    Hi Pinky,
    A woman will be able to refuse hospital care but will have to free birth. There are a few homebirth programmes but most women either do not qualify or the group system make it difficult, not impossible tho.

    I could certainly get a hospital job in theory however I am a loud and well known homebirth midwife and it is unlikely that anyone would give me employment even if I wanted it. Which I dont. I wouldn't keep the job long I'm sure.
    Any midwife on the register who provides a homebirth service when employed even if the women wants it will incur a large fine, the client is also liable for 30,000 dollars for inciting a midwife to birth at home. I think some of my previous posts lists the legislation that will do this.
    There is seemingly no way out of this, although we will not give up the lobbying until the very last day.
    I am not a supporter of elective section for no medical reason however the right to chose is there for these women even though the death rate is 1 in 2500.
    You can insure your teeth, limbs or an alien abduction but you can't get insurance for homebirth. Seems like an inside job to me. Cooperation takes many forms. Feeling free and being free are two very different things.
    I saw a very good analogy with homebrew just laely.
    Obs can work in private practice using no evidence or fact. Babies die every day at the hospital with an Ob, Paed Midwives uncle tom cobley and all in the room with no come back or explanation. It is not seen as dangerous or unreasonable no matter how it happens.
    Whether you would homebirth or not yourself it is as simple as a womans right to remain at home to birth her baby wih a qualified practitioner if she so wishes.
    As aside I have taught advanced cpr to the arrest team as part of he ACLS while living in the UK. I have been registered for over 20 years and am more up to date than most hospital midwives yet as always painted as a dangerous maverick who is killing babies.
    Society and the media are more forgiving if you are a paedophile or mass murderer than if you are a homebirth midwife who will stand with women through thick and thin.

  13. pinky

    Just does not seem right. Folks should have the freedom to choose their own destiny. I am not a big fan of women choosing elective primary c-section. But it is their choice. Same as homebirth.

    Another thing I don't understand is; don't they have other things to do with their time? I mean Australia according to one report only has 700 homebirths in the entire country per year. That is miniscule. Why are these folks all fired up?

  14. Gloria Lemay

    Last night I saw a Public Broadcasting documentary about an African mw who was offered the "advanced practice" carrot. It was called "Birth of a Surgeon".

    They set up a program in her country to train mws to do cesareans out in the countryside. The mws were told they had to do a hundred c-sections before they were given their advanced training certificate. Pretty soon, those nice mws were looking for sections everywhere and even sectioned one VBAC woman who was already pushing. The mw was surprised to find the baby breech when they did the surgery.

    That's the trouble with dividing mws up and inventing different training pathways–the pressure to perform makes even the kindest person become hard and aggressive.