Oct 21, 2009

Lisa's trip to Canada

Here is Vancouver from the beach by day.



This is Vancouver by night from the quay.

A woman who had a lovely twin birth here in Adelaide and has moved to Whistler (2 hours from Vancouver) came into the city for lunch with us. I was so pleased to see her.


The conference in Canada was fantastic and Rixa on her blog Stand and deliver has summed up really well the whole 2 days of the conference.

Rixa and baby Dio


This is Gloria showing me the sights of Vancouver.


I started in Vancouver with a study day about women birthing breech babies. It was well attended and the participants made the day lively and interactive, which is always more exciting than being talked to or at. The study was also attended by my friend Julie Pratt who flew in on her way to Calgary. I shared a bed with her for a few nights, it was just like a sleep over at Glo's house.
Part of my talk, which I was able to try out in Vancouver before moving to Ottawa was on care provider confidence. Skill with breech birth is a heavily pushed must. I think that it is really important to understand the mechanism of normal birth and where to step in but there is no way that skill is the main thing we take to birth. No matter how skilled you may feel you have, if you are afraid of having to step in you will not bring confidence to birth. Care provider confidence is the single most important skill we have. Not confidence in ourselves but confidence in the woman and her ability to birth. The research they did in the power of prayer (really this is the thoughts of many together) proved that people did better as lots of thoughts create mass. This is also what aboriginal cultures use as a basis to their beliefs on many things.



I find it an interesting concept that care providers don't attend head down births feeling that they wouldn't have the correct skills at hand.
I also find it worrying to think that research proving thoughts create mass give us a whole new way of viewing the hospital. Walking head long into a place of mass fear surrounding birth is a very scary thought.
I used a video of a kitten being born (breech) with a great commentary from my husband to illustrate this point.

After a few days I moved on to Ottawa and the main breech conference. I arrived late on Wednesday to no lift and no luggage having no idea where Betty Anne with whom I was staying lived. I noticed Rixa's blog mentioned my mishap. I had to speak in the clothes I'd slept in due everything going to Toronto. It just meant I had a way more unusual look than I meant to have on the day. It certainly was me uncut!!!

Coalition for Breech Birth


My session was full with no standing room left and after being asked to continue through the break and after, I think it was successful. It was on physiological breech the mechanism, care provider confidence and was also about genetics and epigenetics. We didn't really get to the last part as lots of questions from the floor led the conversation. I'm a bit sad but it means it was for another day. The organic movement of a talk creates much more interest for everyone.

Jane Evans gave a talk on the full mechanism of leaning forward breech and Frank and Anke, Obstetricians from Germany talked on the same thing. They were wowed to realised that midwives already were birthing with women like this and not on their back. They thought they had an amazing discovery. It was however a revolution. This means it wasn't original thought but one that is coming around again. Of course women have been birthing like this throughout time. It was Obs who put women on their back in the first place.

Frank and me
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Anke and Jane



They discovered that 40% of women on their back needed the mechanism of breech to be hands on with manoeuvres but from 300 births on their hand and knees only 2 women needed hands on to assist the mechanism of birth. How fantastic that Obs finally are hearing this stuff.
Jane has been trying for years to get things published and although it's maddening to know that only now Obs are taking it on that people are looking more seriously at the outcomes, I'm glad that they are finally taking notice. women have always known this stuff.

The play Birth was performed on the first night. This was fantastic and I won a private auction for a copy of the book which is the play. Anyone can put this play on if they give the proceeds to a birth cause. There was an Ob from Tel Aviv who gave a critique of the Hannah trial. He was a little confronted by the play. He couldn't understand why Obs had been painted the bad guy!! We have such a long way to go.............................

Frank and Ankes Talk was filled with interesting footage of breech in upright position and he was the most enthusiastic speaker (apart from me) of the conference. Anke followed with information on MRI, I wasn't a convert but it was interesting.

I was lucky enough to meet Andrew Bisits from the John Hunter Hospital, He didn't present anything but it was interesting to speak with him and for him to be able to take extra information back home.

Ina May did a story telling section at the end of the second day which was, as ever, engaging and funny.
We all went for supper at the end of the conference which was great.
There were interviews conducted over the conference by Betty Anne Davies and we all participated.
Ina May and Genia

Highlights for me were, meeting Lareen Hudson, what an inspirational woman she is. I was upset to miss her session as it was the same time as mine. Meeting Rixa Freeze, I wanted more time with her but I'm sure we will meet again.
Going to lunch with some fantastic Quebec midwives, I had an awesome time with them over lunch.
Seeing Jane Evans and hanging out with her just so I could feel as important as she is.
Jane in her other job as boom boy for Betty Anne

But the best of all was a very special supper I shared with Genia, a midwife I had no knowledge of before the breech conference but who put herself out to make me feel welcome and who shared some of the most intimate moments of her life with me. A new life long friend in the making. Thanks Genia.

I flew back to Vancouver extremely tired and looking forward to California in March where I will meet lots of these people again.

Back in Vancouver I spent one more day with Gloria. We chatted about so many things.
during this time I have been making a rug. It started out small but Gloria took me to a wool shop where most things were hand spun and dyed. It is now one of the most expensive rugs in the word. I just have to finish it off and it's my Canada rug.
I got some moccasins made by the Huron Indians and they are like gloves.
I also saw a magnificent steam clock and rode the sky train.

I was so pleased to be part of such and international push to recognise women's ability to birth breech babies. We have lots of work to do but we can't give up trying to keep normal birth alive in all it's variations.

you can view all my Canada shots here

16 comments:

Laureen said...

Grin. So when *are* you going to be on Twitter, eh? =)

Lisa Barrett said...

Sorry I spelled your name wrongly.

I am on twitter, it's on my side bar on this blog. I'm purpleanvil. I just don't have many friends that follow it. I need someone to explain the point of it to me.

Making of a Montessori Mum said...

WOW! Sounds amazing Lisa. Thanks for the update. Lisa Uncut - I like it (but really when have you ever not been uncut. That is how we know and luv ya! )

Kelly said...

sounds fantastic! much more exciting than my oral epidemiology conferences! Gotta just love being around all that learning and sharing vibe. Conferences are cool. Bring on collaboration and the push for natural birth.

Anonymous said...

hi Lisa
I was in your breakout session, sitting on the floor at the back!

Your presentation were the best part of the conference for me. I had two short, easy homebirths and then was pregnant with twins - both footling (though after your talk, I really wonder if they were complete with toes pointing down)

No OB or MW would support me through a breech birth and I really felt that although I knew my body could do the work, no one else could or would support me. I arrived at hosp 10cm dilated and had a section.

You give me hope that one day women will truly have informed choice and I am terribly disappointed that homebirth midwives will be illegal in Australia.

I just needed someone to 'believe'. I am glad you do what you do. I am glad the momentum is there and I hope women will start to demand more out of their OB's.
Erin

WiseWoman said...

Thanks for blogging all this, Lisa, brought a big smile to my face. The photos are great to see. You were such a hit with the women who came to the study day in Vancouver. I'll post the link to this post so they can all comment/read it, too.

Looking forward to March in California. Gloria

Karen said...

I am so jealous!!! I would love to meet all these wonderful people. I have actually met Jane Evans, when I sat next to her at a Study Day and she is fabulous. I felt so privileged that day :) Thank you for posting about your trip so we can share virtually.

AmbyUK said...

How interesting, I would have loved to have been there (although I'm "just a layperson" at this point in time). I had an undiagnosed breech baby born at home in a waterpool here in Scotland, it felt quite different but I just went with the flow and found hip pressure felt wonderful during contractions. When she was born I leaned forward and stayed forward whereas I had wanted to sit back a bit so I could see her being born, but it just didn't feel right.

Thanks for sharing.

stand said...

I was sad to miss your presentation. I hope that CBB taped it so we can at least watch it later. I wish we'd had more time to talk--it was such a whirlwind trip for me. I was in Ottawa for 48 hours exactly--and so much happened in that short amount of time!

ps--can I post the two pictures of me and Dio on my blog? I didn't bring a camera so those are the only pictures I have from my trip to Ottawa.

Sora said...

Glad you're back home safe and sound, and it was lovely to meet you in person! Your presentation was definitely a highlight of the conference for me, after all of the talk about the need for provide to be "breech-competent" it was so refreshing to hear you emphasizing the importance of being "breech-confident!"

Kathryn said...

Wonderful Lisa - making waves around the world. An international star! Wonderful to hear about other breech homebirths and sorry to hear that no one was there to support anonymous. Breech or cephalic, women just need someone to believe in them - to hold the space :)

Rose said...

Of course the rest of the world loves you! How could they not?! I love you un-cut anyway ;-)
can't wait to hear all about it tomorrow! Xo

midwife of the plains said...

Thank you for posting this info Lisa. I was unable to make it as I was attending a birth during the conference.
Do you know if there will be any conference tapes or online videos available?
I am hoping to attend next year's if I plan it right.

Love
Brenda

Lisa Barrett said...

I think there is going to be a dvd.

Nicole said...

Hello, I was reading your blog, I'm so glad there are many who post topics like this one, but I was curious, you talked about showing a kitten birth, is that a video you will post here on your blog?

Lisa Barrett said...

Hi Nicole, I wasn't going to post it. It's the comments by my husband that are good and I was able to use to illistrate confidence. He says he's been in touch with me and I know about these things, the kitten comes out and he is nervous, at the end he says, isn't it amazing that cats know just what to do. Of course with the next set he didn't ring. He had no more skill with birthing kittens but he believe in the cats ability to give birth so wasn't in the least worried any more.