Share Your Thoughts

I created this page because I wanted somewhere for people to share a few words without it being related to a specific blog entry.

So maybe you

  • Have a blog or know of a website you’d like to share with us.
  • Have a birth story or a homebirth question.
  • Are a midwife or a student midwife and would like to discuss some aspect of midwifery.
  • Have some ideas that would improve my blog.

Or maybe you are just passing by and want to say hi.

No matter what I’d love to hear from you.

Lisa

123 responses to “Share Your Thoughts”

  1. Naomi

    Thank you for finally having a real web presence!
    I look forward to reading lots more.

  2. Danstar

    Hey Lisa
    You are a warrior for women, babies and their partners. I thankyou for your contribution to SA and Australia will not go unoticed and has impacted so many lives already. Thanks for a wonderful birth nearly two whole years ago. Love your guts
    Dani, Dom and Isaac xxx

  3. Jess

    Love the site Lisa! So fabulous – I almost want to become pregga again just to have the whole amazing, empowering and nuturing experience that you helped facilitate for Greg, Tilly and me. i would def encourage all half interested in home birth to INVESTIGATE MORE!!!! I found it to be the most fabulous, safe, empowering and wonderful experience. I’m preparing to write our Birth Story – will fwd to you when done. lots of love.
    Jess
    xXX

  4. I am Brooke...

    Lisa! Next baby of mine, you’re catching it!!!

    Dduwies ymysg benywod.

  5. Lynette

    Hi — I just discovered your blog this morning, and I’m quite enjoying it. Especially the pictures!

  6. Rose

    Your a true Angel! So worthy of fighting this tough Maternity Battle, and dispelling so many wrong myths. Your a god-send for all of us Mothers and Midwives xoxox Rose

  7. maiasong

    Hello! from Burkina Faso. I just bookmarked your site. What fabulous courage – - I’m looking forward to reading your soapbox. Truth in birth is quite new in BF as this developing country is being colonized by biotech birth notions. I hope to take courage from your example to speak up more often and more loudly.
    with gratitude,
    Maggie

  8. Lisa Barrett

    maiasong. Thank you for reading. It’s always amazing to find true birth keepers like yourself in the most unusual places. I was I’m afraid unaware of BF before today. There again I’m from Wales originally and that’s a small country too.
    Tell us more about your experiences.

  9. tie-dyed doula

    MORE BIRTH STORIES, MORE BIRTH STORIES, I’VE GOTTA HAVE MORE BIRTH STORIES!!! (WINK) I AM ADDICTED TO READING THEM AND I HAVE READ JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ON YOUR SITE-SO INFORMATIVE AND GREAT TO READ-I AM ADDICTED TO YOUR HOME BIRTH STORIES-I LOVE TO READ THEM FROM THE MOTHERS VIEW AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE MIDWIVES VIEW SOMETIME (WINK AGAIN) I HOPE YOU KEEP SHININ’ ON!!! to introduce myself, I am just barely getting around the bloggin world,very new to it, but if you are interested in checking me out, please feel free. My blog is http://www.tie-dyeddoula.blogspot.com and my web is http://www.babymoondoulas.org
    Peace!!
    ssealing@cfaith.com

  10. Melody Gibbs

    Hi Lisa! I was directed to your site by a friend and have just spent like the last 4 or so hours reading everything! :D

    I have just found out I am expecting my 4th child in Dec.

    My 1st birth was in a normal labour ward – and not at all what I wanted. Unfortunately at that stage I just took what hospital staff said! My 2nd & 3rd were both waterbirths in the birthing centre at Flinders. They were simply fabulous!

    This time round I am hoping to go a homebirth so your site has been wonderful!

    Thank you so much for your info!

  11. Lisa Barrett

    I think you are making a great decision considering a homebirth. Feel free to get in touch with me at anytime. If you’d like to chat to others who have had an independent midwifery care, our coffee morning on the 7th ( next wednesday) at The Brown dog, Goodwood Road, is a great place to catch up in a totally informal and relaxed way.

  12. Radical Midwife

    Your blog is just so beautiful!! What has prompted me to write, though, is that I dreamed I was attending a birth last night, and you were there! Wild, huh? In my dream, I thought it odd that you had flown all the way from Australia to attend this birth, but it didn’t seem to phase you in my dream.

    Your blog is by far my favorite midwifery blog on the net. Thank you!!!!

  13. Lisa Barrett

    Thanks Rad midwife. I am waiting until you are feeling up to writing once more on your own blog.
    xxx

  14. Michelle

    Hey Lisa,

    Awesome site!! Now I can see why we haven’t been seeing you on ozmid much lately. Great work!

  15. Anonymous

    Hi Lisa,
    I have a question, I hope you don’t mind.

    I have high blood pressure, as does my mum. I am fit, average weight/height (62kg/172cm)and have normal cholesterol levels. I take medication for the high BP, however I find as I am getting older (29) it is improving. On days when I am super relaxed, I have low BP! This has been for around a year now so maybe there is hope. Anyway, my question is: Is it dangerous for me to have a baby. I ask this, because I have had at least 5 women in their mid 60′s (aunties or family friends-some who have been hospital midwives) express concern over me wanting to have a baby, let alone out of a hospital! Is it true that I will have to lie in bed for 9 months and even with that, still risk my life to start a family? I’m sure it’s a silly question but I am interested in your point of view of this issue. Thank you very much for a fantastic blog by the way.
    Alice

  16. Lisa Barrett

    Hi there, essential hypertension that is already controlled by medication only needs to be monitored during pregnancy like any other. It is not the same as pre eclampsia. You are at a slightly higher risk of getting pre eclampsia but really if you are having regular checks then you would know as you went along if a problem was brewing. Better to deal with it as it arises than worry about it in advance. The risk is between 2 and 11% which is still a high chance of not getting a problem and shouldn’t stop you from planning the birth you want.
    Quite often you get an initial lowering of bp in pregnancy with a raise at the end. Your midwife will just look at it regularly and can collaborate with specialists if it was any sort of issue.

  17. Lisa Barrett

    I also wanted to add, looking at your diet and fitness health is really important during your pregnancy, being proactive about getting advice through natural sources such as a naturopath can help your overall health.

  18. carly

    Hi Lisa,
    Carly here from JB;)
    Love this Blog!
    Such important information for women.
    Just wanted to ask how you added pdf files?
    Thanks

  19. Lisa Barrett

    Hi Carly, I got an account with scribd uploaded them there and then linked to them.

  20. Zoe Freney

    Bon voyage Lisa!! I hope you remembered to put your knitting away before you got on the plane!

  21. Zoe Freney

    Bon Voyage, Lisa. I hope you remembered to put your knitting away before you got on the plane!

  22. Rose

    I would love for you to put some info up on twin births!! anything you’ve got….

  23. Elizabeth

    I’m so impressed with the attitude towards birth on this site.
    I really think the hospital attitude needs to change for low risk pregnancies. I’m not ready for kids yet, but I will really consider home birth/minimal intervention.

  24. Katrine

    I want to thank you and all the families that have shared their birth stories through your website.

    I’ve been slowly working my way through your posts over the last couple of weeks and have been inspired to really thoroughly re-consider what I “know” about birth/pregnancy, and in the process have been learning so much about myself.

    Thank you for sharing yourself and your craft so freely. You’ve given a couple, thinking about starting a family in the future, options that we didn’t know we had and we’re eternally grateful!

  25. Anonymous

    Hello Lisa!
    I found your absolutely amazing blog when I googled on ”resuscitation”.
    I am a Swedish grandmother who has spent the last 18 months, since I attended my granddaughter`s hospital birth in April 07, trying to convince all people in Sweden who are responsible for the routines in maternity hospitals to stop early cord clamping – and finally I have succeeded!!!

    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvt.se%2Fsvt%2Fjsp%2FCrosslink.jsp%3Fd%3D22620%26a%3D1282845%26lid%3Dpuff_1282858%26lpos%3Drubrik&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&sl=sv&tl=en

    Unfortunatley the national guidelines for cord clamping , witch were presented last Friday, do not include resuscitation with intact cord. So my crusade against early cord clamping continues until even this will be included.

    Today I put a link to the resuscitation contribution on your blog into my own Swedish blog http://blogg.aftonbladet.se/15613/perma/996953/
    And even on a family community http://www.familjeliv.se/Forum-2-13/m36407096.html
    , where I since last year have informed expectant parent on the risks on early cord clamping , I today put up 3 of your blog contributions – the breech births and the absolutely amazing twin birth.
    I hope you don´t mind.
    Blessings
    Linda Morge
    lindamorge@hotmail.com

  26. Lisa Barrett

    Thank you for your mail Linda, I’m more than happy that you used some of my posts.
    Lisa

  27. Anonymous

    Thank you for your answer Lisa. I´m glad you didn’t mind that I used some of your posts, and that you instead are happy ;)

    I got a mail today from an obstetrician who had seen the pics of the baby who was resuscitated, and she wondered why the baby was still so pale when it had started breathing, and wanted me to ask you if you’ve got any pictures of this baby when it has turned pink.

    Linda

  28. Lisa Barrett

    The full set of pics were taken before 1min. At one min and 20 secs baby was totally pink.
    http://www.homebirth.net.au/2008/03/breech-variation-of-normal.html this is the birth. Lovely baby picture at the end of the post

  29. Anonymous

    Thanks so much Lisa ;)

    I forwarded your answer to the Obstetrician (Judy Mercer. I have frequent mail contact with her and the other people in http://www.birth-brain-injury.org/ since last summer), and now comes her next question:

    “That is great. If she could add one picture of the baby fully recovered (she
    should be pinker than her mom) that would add a great deal to her pictorial evidence of full recovery on an intact cord after distress.
    Maybe she can do this.
    Thank so much Linda”

    Linda

  30. Lisa Barrett

    I was more than happy to show the pictures of the baby recovered nicely. Tell the Ob that although I thank her for her contribution I am perfectly happy with my post just as it is. As I said the baby was pink by 1min. An apgar of 4 or 5 is fairly common with a breech, this was not really distress. Apgar at 1min and 20 secs was fine. As you can see the woman didn’t even need to leave the water.

  31. Ingrid Louise

    Thankyou so much for this blog – It has made me REALLY want a home birth next time! (Now just to convince hubby! Any tips?) Not pregnant at moment, but I love all the stories and info on here!

  32. Lisa Barrett

    Just get a midwife to come and speak with you both when you are pregnant. There is a great dad a homebirth post on here. He must read it!!

    I can see you are in South Australia, we have our coffee morning tomorrow why don’t you come along. Children are welcome and you don’t have to be pregnant, many are not, lots of people just come because we are all so nice.
    it’s from 9.30 at Serves you right on Unley Road.

  33. Milie in Oz

    Hi Lisa,

    Sorry in advance for the length of this letter.
    I’ve been one of your very loyal readers since the beginning of this year, and like you, I’m passionate about homebirth.

    I’m now 2-month pregnant (1st baby), and I would love a homebirth (I’m very healthy). Problem is that my partner is scared and would love a birth centre instead (“in case anything goes wrong we would already be at the hospital, and would save time”). The closest hospital is only a 10-15 minute drive from home. He read some stories of babies dying during homebirths and thinks that he would never forgive himself if anything went wrong at home.

    We met an independent midwife specialised in homebirth and had a very good contact with her. And to show him I was open minded, I accepted to visit the local birth centre. We explained our differences of view to the birth centre midwife. She answered “well, have a homebirth then, it’s as safe as a birth centre, and trust your wife’s body”. Of course I was very happy to hear that and my partner wasn’t…

    It wasn’t enough to convince my partner.

    I’m so sad, and don’t want to compromise. We are going through a big crisis because of this. And of course my partner’s family doesn’t encourage the idea of a homebirth :-( and their opinion is important to him.

    Lisa, do you have any experience of partners changing their mind during pregnancy (birth centre to homebirth)? Do you have any ideas of what we could do to help him work on his fears?

    Thanks for your time Lisa. And keep going with this fantastic blog!

    Milie from Sydney

  34. Lisa Barrett

    Quite Honestly Millie, the men are the most skeptical to start with and the best advocates afterwards. There is a great book by Dave Vernon called Men at birth, maybe you could get him to read it. I also think the post seven secrets of a homebirth dad which is on this blog is a must read. Did you tell your husband that babies die at the hospital, you would never forgive yourself then either. You don’t leave risk at the door when you enter the hospital you take it with you and add so much more.

    Maybe you could get him to talk to some partners who have been at homebirths and get them to talk with him. Ask the midwife I’m sure she could find some.

    Men always have the same concerns and questions, what equipment do you bring?what is something goes wrong? what if she’s bleeding to death? It is better if you could find a man to talk this through with him.

  35. Milie in Oz

    Dear Lisa,

    Thanks a lot for your reply and your support.
    I’ll definitely buy Men at birth, and my partner is happy to talk to contacts (provided by my midwife) who had homebirths…and were transfered to the hospital.
    I’m sure it will be great for him to share his feelings with some men.
    We have now chosen a midwife and I am about to start prenatal care. Hopefully my partner will finally relax about homebirth and trust me…

    Good luck Lisa for all these births happening at the same time!
    Milie

  36. Kristina

    Dear Lisa,
    Thank you for all your helpful information and support published in your blog and given to me when talking to you.

    I am very thankful that I got to meet you. You are a very important source of information for me being pregnant for the first time and therefore my constant reassurance that my gut feelings about myself and my abilities as a mum are right. And it is a great pleasure for me to read not only your posts but especially your comments referring to OB and other practices.

    I have read your recent post about the article published in the Australian referring to the government pushing for more acceptance of midwifery services with huge interest. I really hope that some more people, doctors, government and insurances start using their gut feeling and brain soon to return to better practices for giving birth to healthy babies and to make life so much easier for expecting mums.

    I really hope that more pregnant women will remember their women’s wisdom and will be lucky enough to be supported by you or one of your colleagues.

  37. Power of Birth

    Hello and thank you for all your wonderful work. A friend of mine passed your blog onto me and I love it. I wanted to pass on a blog about homebirth from a father to be’s perspective:

    http://www.unorthodoxdad.com

    Enjoy!

  38. CM

    I found your blog recently and have spent days pouring over it. I will be having my first homebirth soon and was raised (in the U.S.A.) with a strong sense of freedom and responsibility only to feel “violated” of all that when my first baby was born in a hospital. I swore that would never happen again. I wish we could clone you Lisa and sprinkle you everywhere in the States. The OB’s wouldn’t know what hit them. I wish this type of care was a freedom we could exercise here as our statistics look dim in comparison with other countries. I do have a midwife, but if complications arise, usually there are no midwives in the hospitals upon transfer, and sometimes women get the c-sec simply as a “punishment” for having been “stupid enough to choose a midwife and homebirth.” They don’t consider anything else but their bruised pride because they weren’t chosen first (or the God complex, great article). Keep up the good work, the stories on this site and your articles are absolutely inspirational and beautiful, I’m so glad I found it.

    -CM
    USA

  39. Lisa Barrett

    CM thanks for your thoughts and good birthy vibes for your journey. Please let me know how you go.
    Lisa

  40. Anonymous

    Hi Lisa –
    Im a midwifery student, interested in homebirth (having had one :-) ) and also breech vaginal deliveries. Could you suggest some books that would be good to read?
    Thanks

  41. Anonymous

    Dear,
    I am Md.Shahnur Rahman moving in Adelaide along with my wife from BANGLADESH under 3 years PROVISIONAL VISA (Subclass 475) within May-August 2009.Good news is, My wife is caring & currently with 7th weeks of pregnancy.

    Can we get any support from you in this state(We ve no medicare/insurance)? If we get so, would you please inform us the amount we need to arrange for the total process?

    Waiting for your kind response.

    Thanks.

  42. Lisa Barrett

    Hi, I certainly could support you. There is no medicare number for my services even if you are a citizen. If you want to email me that would be lovely lisa@jelikin.org

  43. Nicole

    Ah, Lisa. Thank you. Some times I feel like I am going insane. I’ve never spent much time at the doctor, my mum brought me up to believe in my body’s ability to heal itself – as such, I’ve married a naturopath and my sister is one too. I’m 32 weeks pregnant now and am fortunate to be having a home birth through the Community Midwifery Program in WA… Reflecting on the extent to which the medical profession controls women’s bodies reminds me of a very powerful scene from a film – by French director Catherine Breillat – I think it is called Romance. It was a jump cut from a man ejaculating on a prostitute’s stomach to an OB squeezing gel on a pregnant woman’s stomach before an ultrasound… hmmm. Anyway… cheers again… and vive la revolution!

  44. em

    Hi Lisa,

    First of all can I just say you have an awesome website and I thankyou for that. I am planning to have a home birth when i’m pregnant (yes not even pregnant yet but I like to be organised). I’m not sure what exactly made me think about home birth because no body ever really talks about it. It seemed like it didn’t even exist as an option. But i’m glad I have researched it as it has just made me more passionate about homebirth. I am yet to find a homebirth midwife that services my area. But i guess I’ll wait till i’m pregnant to go that far.

    Lisa I also wanted to ask you home you go about becoming a homebirth midwife. I am a nurse at present and am wanting to study midwifery however i think I may become frustrated if made to train in the hospital setting given so many unecessary interventions. So am wondering if there is anyway to get to train just in homebirth midwifery. If you can direct me in any way it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again Lisa for such an informative website that i’m sure so many people like me appreciate.

  45. Lisa Barrett

    Hi there,
    at the moment there is no other legal way to train as a midwife.
    You could always email me at lisa@jelikin.org if you want to chat.
    or ring me 08 83980120

  46. Amalia

    Hi Lisa, I read some of the stories on your site and they're awesome. I'm 19 weeks pregnant with my first and for the past 2 or so months I've been thinking of a home birth. Unfortunately for this "project" I'm living in Romania (some country in Europe I'm not sure you even heard of), and as far as I know it's quite possible I won't be able to find a midwife or doctor to assist me at home. Here EVERYONE goes to the hospital (except maybe in some remote village in the mountains), I'm not sure official midwifes exist in this country. Mostly everyone I told about this idea went "you're completely nuts !". I'm not exactly sure why I'm writing to you, I suppose I'm just hoping for a bit of encouragement :) . If you have the time maybe we can talk sometimes. Thanks for your time, wish you and your patients all the best !

  47. Lisa Barrett

    Hi there, Amalia, I'm Welsh so of course I know where Romania is.

    Are you on facebook that is always a good way to chat? I'd love to talk with you.

    I hope you can find someone to help or you find the confidence and belief in yourself to birth your way without needing anyone.
    Why can't you go to a village and find a tranditional attendant, I think there are plenty in your country if you know where to look.

  48. Messy Jess

    Hi Lisa, love your blog.

    Just thought I would write and let you know of my own blog. It's more of a feminist pregnancy/general life blog than specific to homebirth, but my latest entry is about the midwifery laws threatened for next year.
    http://www.waitingtosettledown.blogspot.com/

    Keep up the good work,
    Jess

  49. Tiff

    Hi Lisa,

    I have just stumbled across your blog – awesome! I am a clinical nurse in Cairns and moving to the Adelaide Hills at the end of next year, and finishing off midwifery at Flinders Uni, after stopping 6 months into my training a number of years back out of disgust of how medicalised birth had become.

    Your blog is inspiring.

    Tiff : )

  50. Tiff

    PS – were you on the OzMid list at some time? Your name seems familiar.

    Tiff : )

  51. Lisa Barrett

    Well get in touch any time Tiff.

  52. Lisa Barrett

    I am an Oz midder, the one they call irresponsible unreasonable and undesirable. LOL

  53. Anonymous

    Hi, I have recently read a fantastic book called Midwife wisdom, mother love by Sarah James, and I think it would be a great read for anyone looking to have a baby or associated with someone who is having a baby or even women who have already had kids. It might be worth having a look at her website and even possabely having it as a book linked to your website, if you feel to do so. Her website is sarah@sarahjames.com.au or you can just google the title of the book.She has also just recently put out a press release about homebirth and is going to be on abc gold coast radio tomorrow at 9.40am and you can listen online, she is being interveiwed by Nicole Dyer and she( Nicole Dyer) is currently pregnant herself, so it should be a great interview. Your website is fantastic and you seem to have alot of wonderful info available for women, it is great!Well done. Kind reguards TJ.

  54. majikfaerie

    Hiya, it was AWESOME to meet you in real life :) email me birth [at] majikfaerie.com and I'll send you the photo of us.

  55. Amalia

    Hi again Lisa, I'm Amalia of the June 17th post, not sure how I got the name posted then. I' now 36+ weeks pregnant, still hoping to have a normal homebirth, still no assistance available. If you have the time I would greatly appreciate some chatting with you – I now have a Facebook account but for some reason can't seem to find you there (not very familiar with Facebook I'm afraid). Also my email address is amalia dot stefan at gmail dot com. It would be great to hear from you when you can spare the time. Thanks in advance !

  56. Mick

    Hey, I love your site. A friend of mine just published some articles about home birth in the Middle East which I thought you might find interesting. The traditional practice has pretty much died out completely in favour of hospital births but a growing group of women want that power back.
    http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100503/NATIONAL/705029860/1010
    http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100503/NATIONAL/705029858/1010

    Anyway, keep up the good work fighting the good fight.

  57. Kat Williams

    Lovely
    Indispensable
    Sort after
    A passionate soul

    Brilliant birth advocate
    Awesome support
    Respects the birthing space
    Radical
    Empathetic
    Talented
    Trusts birth With Woman

    Love Kat x

  58. Rose

    In your honour, on International Midwives Day…..

    Listens
    Intuitive
    Safe
    Always a presence, never an intrusion

    Beautiful
    Artistic
    Respectful
    Reassuring
    Entertaining
    Trusts women
    Trusts birth

  59. Andie

    What a welcome website.Thank you for sharing with us.

    My own twins are 13 months old, and I had to fight just to be heard as to my preferences of a natural birth. I switched practices midway through my pregnancy because I was at a practice who would not allow me to be seen by the midwives once the pregnancy became “high risk” due to being multiples. The practice I switched to was more twin-friendly, but I was still not “able” to birth at home or in the birthing center. I had 3 previous vaginal births of larger babies (the smallest was just under 10 lbs, the largest was 12 lbs even) so I had no question that I could successfully birth my twins vaginally and drug-free, not to mention without other interventions! I was frustrated that many of my birth plans were being thrown out the window, but I was at least patronized enough to allow me to “try” to have a natural, vaginal birth.

    The pregnancy went so splendidly that the doctors never took me off my full time job, and at 36 weeks I chose to keep myself home so I could properly prepare for the birth. My labor began at 38weeks, on one of my older children’s birthdays, but my twins waited to be born just a few short hours after midnight, as I had hoped. Twin A, my 7lb8oz baby boy was born vaginally in the C’section room (as required) in 3 steady pushes, as the surgical staff waited to have their go at us. His brother followed 7 minutes later and greeted me after the first firm, but gentle push. He was my smallest baby at 6lbs 11oz, and the only one to still be coated in vernix at birth.

    I have a strong sense of frustration that the natural birth I had so eagerly hoped for was not supported by the medical options I had been aware of having, yet I was filled with several moments of deep pride: I felt a sense of pride as the surgeon looked on in what appeared to be awe, and remarked that he couldn’t believe that I had not been given an epidural or other pain medications because I was smiling and joking with my husband between contractions and pushes. I felt jubilation when, within moments of his brothers birth, the second twin turned head down and presented himself as ready, never giving the doctor a chance to put another damper on our birthday. I felt so empowered when I glanced up to see the surgical team exiting the room unneeded, just before 3am, and heard remarks about how I certainly didn’t LOOK like I just gave birth to twins. Needless to say, I was so glad to have been able to “prove” to the hospital staff that it COULD be done, and I was grateful for a physician who was willing to at least humor me. I didn’t tear, nor were any cuts made, I was stitch free, despite the surgical setting i was required to birth in.
    As I read the pages of your website, I am filled with a sense of loss, because I could have had such a beautiful story to tell, and yet I am filled with a sense of hope that perhaps I might have been able to be an example. I armed myself with the best knowledge I could find to support my preferences and choices, and I’m learning more still.

    I am expecting again, and while I am unsure at this time if I am carrying one ore more I am feeling more equipped to pursue the kind of birth I really want. We do have the perfect garden tub, after all!

  60. Jenny West

    Love your site. Was at the Trust Birth Conference and was presenting when you were doing your breech presentation. I heard a lot about it/you and am sorry I missed it. I may be in Australia in January of 2011. Would you consider doing a one-day or whatever you need time wise class/workshop about breech? Maybe I could just come and visit and you could do the same presentation you gave at the TB conference? Do you think anyone locally would come if you were to offer/advertise this? I don’t believe anyone should be subject to a C/S just because their baby chooses to be in a breech position –it is a variation of normal! I have some experience with breech birth, but am feeling the need for more knowledge concerning this topic. I don’t know where you are in Australia, but I have a good friend in Melbourne and I might have to go visit Claire Hall as well!
    Thanks for all you do , everyday,
    Jenny West, LM,CPM and more…

  61. Kristi Wilbanks

    Lisa,
    Had a question for you, love your site, of course.
    My question is this. I have RH- blood, my husband does not. I do have antibodies built up, but this has not affected my last 3 births, which are the births I have desided to for go the Rogam shot for ( they have also been UC`S) I have thought about having a Lotus birth, or at least delaying cutting of the cord for several hours, instead of minutes, for this newest addition to our family, what are your thoughts on this?

  62. Kristi Wilbanks

    Thanks Lisa, I`m not really sure what my titres are like. I will check out the books. I live in the states, so don`t know how I would go about getting the baby`s blood group checked, but I will look into it. I`m sure it wouldn`t be too hard. I Just want to be able to do it in a way that has the Least amount of dr. involvement as possible. Thanks again!

  63. Rani O'Keeffe

    I’d like to share the link to the trailer of the upcoming documentary -
    Throwing out the lies with the birth water. I’m woking hard to finish it and am aiming to have a screening of the 1hr film in the Blue Mountains NSW in late July to time in with new maternity reforms. Please check out the link and pass it on!
    Thanks,
    Rani

  64. rani O'Keeffe

    not sure if that link went through..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQ03IlWz3k

  65. Bobby

    Hi Lisa,
    I’m 36 weeks pregnant with my first baby, and this pregnancy has been such a period of learning and growth for me. When I was investigating birth choices early in my pregnancy I was appalled at the statistics surrounding childbirth in Victoria, particularly those of intervention and caesarean birth. I started searching for other options, and was extremely lucky to be included in Sunshine Hospital’s home birth pilot program. Since handing over the management of my pregnancy to my midwives, Sue and Susan, I have felt nothing but empowerment and confidence in the knowledge that I am making a safe and valid choice for the birth of my baby. I have faith in my ability to birth naturally, as do they. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be as a passionate supporter of home birth to be subject to the whims of the AMA, with their skewed statistics and ‘live in fear’ approach. Thank you for devoting yourself to advocating for women and their right to choose a normal birth with no intervention.
    Bobby

  66. Kelly Griffiths

    Hi Lisa,

    How do I get in contact with you to ask a few questions? I am unable to make it to the next coffee morning as I am still at work. I am 7 weeks pregnant and haven’t broken the news or even been to a GP yet! I’m mainly concerned with pricing options and if I can afford a homebirth as an option.

    Many thanks,
    Kelly

  67. Adrienne

    Just wanted to say a huge thankyou for coming into our lives and agreeing to be our midwife for our second rainbow baby. Amanda and i are excited to be taking this journey with you.

    Adrienne

  68. Leah

    WOW, all i can say is WOW.. what an AMAZING site.
    I found you on google after i wondered if my birth story on a forum showed and i found you, so glad i did, have shared the link with my friends on facebook.
    I have a story of a footling breech, unassisted home birth (by accident), please feel free to contact me or i can contact you.
    I have submitted it on a forum so can copy and paste and edit, i also have the audio from the 000 phone call.

    Again … WOW

  69. Peyton

    Hi Lisa,

    Great work on the site and promoting homebirth!

    I have an interesting birth story to share.

    I am an GP and worked in a remote town in Scotland for a while. I didn’t believe in midwifery at first and when I became pregnant with my third child, I had decided that I would travel to Glascow to have my baby. Fortunately, I things happened and the events changed my opinion of homebirths and midwifery.

    I was 2 weeks from delivering when I was asked by my friend to come and attend her birth conducted by a young midwife named Sarah, just out of training, as a measure of re-assurance you can say. Anyhow, I came over, sat with my patient through her labor and helped the young midwife deliver her baby daughter.

    Interestingly enough, I had been having what I thought were Braxton-Hicks contractions thoughout the day and while helping Sarah deliver the baby, I felt this sharp pain and ignored it. A few minutes later, I felt another sharp pain, this time it took my breathe away and I actually doubled over. Sarah looked at me and right away she knew I was in labor. She suggested that I take a few deep breathes and to head into the living room and lie down and said that she would be in to check on me as soon as delivered my friend’s baby. Taking a few breathes didn’t help and I started to panic as my contractions were coming pretty regularly and fast! — embarrassed as I was a fully trained doctor! Its quite something to be a fully trained medical specialist versus being a woman in labor because all the medical training goes out the door.

    Sarah finished up and came and checked me and said that I was 3 cm dilated but it didn’t help ease my fears as I knew by now I was having a really fast, precipitous labor. As my waters hadn’t broken it, she suggested we do that and so she broke my amniotic sac.

    Close to an hour later I was delirious from pain and screaming. Sarah said she had to check me as I wasn’t sounding too good and I remember fighting with her telling her I couldn’t possibly take having examine me. Thank god Sarah was cooperative.

    Half an hour passed and I felt this huge urge to push. Once again I panicked and said “oh god, I need to push”. Sarah said she needed to go and get ready (sanitize) and told me not to push until she could examine me. I remember it was sooooo uncomfortable and the pressure was so intense I was literally begging and pleading with her to let me do push – I actually did! About six pushes later, my little girl was born.

    I was so grateful to Sarah, this 25-year old nurse midwife. She was so calm and cool compared to me, and so much in control of the situation it actually made me feel very vulnerable. I realized the value of having midwives and homebirths as opposed to having babies in hospitals lying on your back with your legs in stirrups like the philosophy I was trained in during residency in the US. Sarah had me walking, squatting, on my hands and knees, and was right there coaching me through labor.

    I know have a profound respect for midwives and the wonderful work that you do. So much so that I recommend homebirths for normal, problem-free pregnancies and refer my pregnant patients to Sarah. in some cases I will even attend these homebirths, as her assistant.

  70. Mary Ann Pratt

    Hi Lisa, I’m a 54 year old RN in New York State,USA..I’ve always wanted to be a midwife,which is hard to do here in the U.S. It’s time for a different form of nursing than I have been doing for this stage in my life….Any suggestions as to where in the US I can find a midwife to mentor me..I’ve given birth to 6 children , all natual births,with no medicine. andI have 18 grandchildren ,I’ve assisted in 12 of the births.And I’ve been a Registered Nurse since 1992…I so enjoy your web site…Lord bless you in your work and teaching…Mary Ann Pratt

  71. Susan de Weger

    Hi Lisa

    Just wanted to say a big thanks for keeping your site updated so regularly, it’s wonderful to read about the terrific work you are doing to allow women in SA to homebirth! I was lucky enough to have both my sons (7 and 4) in the UK with the midwives who worked through our local surgery, first son was a normal, drug free delivery after induction at 38 weeks for severe pre-eclampsia (we wanted a HB though) and second son was a beautiful and very quick home water birth. I know I’m very lucky to have had the opportunity for a well resouced and supported HB and am doing my best in Brisbane to help any other women who want the same.

    Keep up the great work!
    Susan.

  72. Amy

    Lisa, Lisa, Lisa… I gotta stop reading your blog… It’s really not helping with my cluckiness!! The head says “No, not now” The heart says “but babies are sooooo scrummy! And wouldn’t it be great for my girls to have another sibling.” We’ll see! But I’ll keep reading coz I just can’t get enough of the wonder of birth!

    Amy

    1. Anna Groen

      Amy, couldn’t help reply to your comment … echoing my thoughts exactly!! I have 2 homebirth children & am trying to convince hubby to agree to number 3, even though all the ‘practical/logical’ parts of my brain (and all of his) are saying no no no. I am now officially addicted to this site!!! :)

  73. Beth

    Hi Lisa,

    My husband and I visited the FMC Birth & Assessment Suite recently and spoke at length with a midwife there about their birth procedures. One thing that stood out to me, was that when I told her that I wanted to have delayed cord cutting, she said that current research shows that unless the baby is being held down at the level of the mother’s legs (which I don’t think any new mother would want to do!) the blood does not flow back to the baby, and there is therefore no benefit in delaying the cord cutting. She did say that if I still wanted it, that was okay, as long as there were no contraindications at the time.

    I just wondered whether you’ve heard anything about this, and what your thoughts are on it.

    Thanks,
    Beth

  74. Beth

    * I meant delayed cord clamping, not cutting! Sorry.

  75. Xanthe Roxburgh

    Just thought I’d share a home waterbirth I photographed a couple of weeks ago: http://www.xantheroxburgh.com.au/blog/2010/birth-photography-a-beautiful-homebirthwaterbirth

  76. Rose

    Beth- that midwife doesn’t know what she’s talking about. OR is lying to you to coerce your decision making. Both of which happen frequently at hospitals. I know because I have seen it a lot, as a midwife. The Staff are working for the hospital not for you, so despite what they say they don’t have you and your babes health as their priority/best interests.
    Hiring a private MW means she is employed by YOU, and has only you to care for with no policies or protocols or doctors to keep ‘happy’. And definitely no timelimits or strangers!!!!

  77. Rose

    Happy to be back in action :)

  78. Rose

    Lisa- do you have any links to the inaccuracies of US for estimating fetal growth, abdo circumference etc etc? Have a friends, friend in the IOL firing-line!!!! Because the babes posterior and her cervix ‘isn’t ready’ and the babys on the 10th percentile (no other scans showing ‘problems’. She’s 39/40, primip!!
    *head.desk*

  79. Caroline Spear

    I have just watched the frank breech video, with my frank breech baby who was cut out of me. For the first time in 18+ years, I am not crying :-)

    I have stoped wishing I knew about midwives like you then, because I have been able to help so many women since. But it has taken a long time..

    I have come a long way, helped many women to VBAC, and of course, had some of my own: 3 and a late miscarraige, a son.
    After the c/s, I had no scans, sonicaid once with 2 babies (one hated it, the other was born 3 mins later, 10 mins after my m/w arrived).
    My last baby, well, by the time I could be bothered to let my partner call for a midwife, it was too late. How my baby and I danced during that labour, and how I loved my midwife, who had sensed my plans for that birth..

    I am sharing your site with Mums to be.
    Thank you
    Caroline :-) xxxx

  80. Cassie

    What a lovely website and great resource for moms-to-be and midwives! I am currently 11/2 of those things. I’m in school to be a nurse midwife here in America and hope to do homebirths when I am finished. I assisted a homebirth nurse midwife for awhile after nursing school and became addicted to it! I will be visiting this website often to learn as much as I can from you. I love hearing other midwives perspectives. It’s great that you do breech deliveries and have done twin deliveries as well. Both of which I feel are lost in the midwifery practice.

    Thanks again!

    Cassie

  81. Student Midwife

    This is a wonderful website!! I am a first year student midwife, studying in Scotland. I absolutely love it. Lisa, you are very inspiring. I love that even after 20 odd years people are still so passionate about what they do!! The homebirth videos are magical.
    xxx

  82. Megan Haldane

    Dear Lisa,
    Ten years ago my twin grand daughters were born at home… as were their two brothers some years before them. That is the last time I attended a birth. I was very involved for quite a number of years before that, in helping women and families who were having their babies and particularly those who chose to birth at home. I attended 300 births in all … most of them at home. I began by joining various midwives and a particular doctor in Sydney as a birth attendant. I conducted birth/parenting classes for a number of years. .
    Anyhow, these days I am a somatic psychotherapist helping families and individuals and I have particular knowledge and experience in child development. I am at present writing two books and taking a long time about it. One is about parenting and the other about depression.
    OK. I hope that gives a tiny idea of what I am about. I haven’t followed the birthing scene in Australia for quite some time and I found your website quite by accident. As an older woman, I dare to claim to have some wisdom. I feel in a position to tell you I am extremely happy to find that someone like you with your extraordinary knowledge, skill and perseverance is helping women and families in the way that you do. I think ‘extraordinary’ is the main way to describe you and I just hope that you and all those around you can keep up your health and your mind strength to continue the work whilst those in the false ‘power’ positions fight you all the way. They will never let up. They can never win.
    Two days ago I spoke to a young man who is in his second year of Medicine at University. He was rather arrogant and very proud of how well he is doing and commented that his greatest triumph in his life was that he managed to attain a 98 TER mark at the end of high school three years ago which allowed him to ‘go into medicine.’ When I asked him what he thought his specialty would be, since he was such a bright student, he replied assuredly, “No doubt, IT is already decided … Obstetrics and Gynaecology.” He is still young but there was no feeling from him that he had any interest in the well being of women. That number 98 was it! … determining his future and adding to the power base in medical institutions where women will continue to be treated so poorly and abused in every subtle and gross way possible.
    So I support you whole heartedely. You are special. You are wonderful because of your exquisite knowledge about the truth of being human and your courageous application of your belief, your skills and your selflessness toward Mothers and babies and whole families.

  83. Joey Vieira

    We just had a home birth and loved everything about it! Here’s a beautiful little video we made of the 3 days of labor.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftv3z6OZcY

  84. Aarna Hudson

    Hi Lisa,

    I just wanted to say hello and thank you for your website.

    I was recommended to look you up by my wonderful midwife Sue Cookson, up here in Byron Bay, in 2008, when we discovered that we were pregnant with twins. Your words and strength were very reassuring at a time when we felt a bit on our own regarding our birth choices. Our local birth centre was unable to have us back, due to the automatic ‘high risk’ tag that comes with a twin pregnancy from a medical viewpoint, and it seemed our only option was one of two hospitals. One of which I found to be condescending and belittling in their attitude when I expressed my desire for a natural birth after the wonderful experience we had had with our firstborn. What a blessing this attitude was though, as I then decided to look for a midwife to accompany us to the OTHER hospital so that all our wishes for a natural birth would be supported. And then I met with Sue, an angel in our life….

    From the moment I met with Sue I felt totally comfortable and made the decision that day to have a homebirth, with her by our sides. What an empowering journey it was. I just wanted to let you know we had a wonderful birth, 3 hours from start to finish with two healthy boys- 7 pound 6oz, and 7 pound 1oz, born at 39 weeks and 6 days. The births of our three children have been the most wonderful of experiences for us and I wondered if you needed another twin birth story, even though it is with another midwife, I would happily write something. If anyone else was out there pregnant with twins I would love to have them find information, like I did, which gave them the courage and feeling of support that there was an alternative, and home birth with twins is entirely possible. When friends and acquaintances found out I was having twins, many of them shared that they had siblings who were twins, or a relative. Once I started to ask questions of my older friends of where their Mum gave birth it was at home. Back then they probably didn’t know they were having twins and homebirth was natural anyway. I spoke of our home birth at the Byron Bay home birth rally on July 4th 2009, when the twins were nearly six months and our oldest was just over two years old. I felt blessed to have had such a wonderful experience and then to be able to speak out and support our right as women for birth choice.

    Thanks Lisa for being such a dedicated supporter of women, birth and families, your strength was a beacon of light when I needed it, and for that I am grateful.

    Yours sincerely, Aarna Hudson

  85. BreechMama

    Hello, Lisa,
    Thank you for your website and all the info about breech babies. I am 38 weeks plus 4 days, and my baby is frank breech. I’m an American woman living in South Korea, and I’ve found a splendid, experienced midwife to help me have a natural delivery at her birthing center.

    When I found out my baby was breech I was so discouraged. However, after a lot of research and consultations with several medical experts, I’ve come to believe that breech is just unique — not a malposition!

    I have some fear about not birthing at a hospital because everything I’ve read says breech birth should be done at a hospital, especially for a first-time mother (as I am). However, even in the unlikely event that something were to go wrong (like head entrapment), my regular OB has assured me that it wouldn’t really matter if I was in a hospital or at home. If I was delivering in the operating room with an epidural in place, then I would be set for a “crash” c-section, but this is not what I’m planning to do. And if I’m not mistaken, a c-section carries about the same risk for baby as the risk of something like head entrapment.

    I think I have made the right decision, but it is difficult to convince others. Every birth has some risk, after all, but you are somehow responsible for it if it’s not done at a hospital!

    I’ll let you know how the birth goes!

    Cheers,
    Victoria

  86. Nik

    Hi Lisa :) I’m a student midwife in Queensland. Listened to your awesome talk on ethics the other day for Virtual International Day of the Midwife. After listening, and in preparation for doing hospital prac, I’d like to learn as much as I can about how to effectively uphold the rights of birthing women / act ethically in a hospital setting (for me this will be in a student m/w role).

    So – is there any resources (books / websites etc) that you could suggest – especially Australian material – that can give advice on this issue? Or do you think it’s really not possible to be a student m/w in a hospital setting in the current environment, and still act ethically or protect birthing women’s rights?
    Thanks in advance – Nik

  87. Kate Cornfoot

    Hi Lisa,

    Your blog is inspiring, honest, beautiful and thoughtful. I come back again and again to read new birth stories, or see your take on the constantly evolving (or, it seems at times, devolving) attitudes to independent midwives in Australia.
    I had a planned homebirth in 2010 that ended in a transfer to hospital; thankfully, the hospital staff on duty allowed my homebirth midwife to keep ‘running the show’, as it were, and helped me have the natural, drug-free,non-interventionist birth I desired. I’ve written about my experience and why I believe in homebirth on my blog – http://www.musingmummy2011.blogspot.com. I would love you to read it.

    Thank you again for a wonderful blog.

    Fondest regards,

    Kate Cornfoot

  88. John

    Hi Lisa,

    As this is my first comment, I want you to know you do not have to make it public. I am writing this message to thank you and to inform you of what is likely a “blind-spot” for you (as it is for many others).

    I have noticed you remain calm and centered in your replies even when others with opposing views confront you in ways that are sometimes less than civil. That is why I am confident you will not take what I say the wrong way, and that you will actually look into the information to decide for yourself.

    First, thank you for pointing out the importance of freedom of choice. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the heel-prick. My wife is going to have the baby soon, and I do hope there is a way to consent to the screening, and not the storage.

    Now, I would like to share some information with you. I noticed your wikileaks support banner and I feel I must share with you what I have discovered, because I truly believe your heart is in the right place.

    The wikileaks sensation is not what it appears to be. A (somewhat morbid) analogy would be mixing rat poison into an otherwise healthy, delicious meal and serving it to someone while pretending to be their friend. There’s A LOT of good stuff in there…but there is some seriously bad stuff as well. What wikileaks symbolizes (freedom of information) is a great thing. What wikileaks actually is (propaganda mixed in with enough truth to gain “street cred”) is not good at all. In fact, it is dangerous.

    Of course, I can’t prove any of what I said. However, I can say that when you look at the spectrum of leaked information with the global geo-political perspective, you will find it does not contain any TRULY damaging information to the establishment. They’ve sacrificed a bit of their image in exchange for planting the rat poison which is needed to gain support for the larger, more important agenda.

    I will include some links which I hope you find some time to look into.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this. Please keep up the great work.

    John

    http://tarpley.net/2011/01/20/wikileaks-cognitive-infiltration-operation/

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2010/12/08/is-wikileaks-a-cointelpro-operation-for-the-establishment/

    http://tarpley.net/2011/01/16/tunisian-wikileaks-putsch/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

    http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-strikes-again-asian-summer/

    http://dont-tread-on.me/wikileaks-cointelpro-psyop/

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/172/605/The_WikiLeaks_Hoax.html

    http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-assange-and-the-plan-to-censor-the-internet/

  89. Julie

    Hi Lisa, I am a midwifery student and your blog has been included in our course. I was so upset to read the way you replied to the woman on August 20th 2010. She was so obviously hurting incredibly deeply and still grieving and although you wrote, “I am sad for your loss”, from a readers point of view and I’m sure hers you didn’t sound sad at all. It seemed such a cold, detached response with none of the loving, warm and nurturing kindness that is, I believe, an essential part to being a midwife. You then wrote, “through your experiences I think You are generalising” with a capital Y. It was so harsh I couldn’t quite believe it. Hasn’t the woman been through enough. I know what type of midwife I want to be and if I ever lose the heart and softness and understanding that I believe is paramount to a profession where death can and is sometimes the result I will change careers. I understand you have a different opinion to her but the response seemed so unfeeling and could have been given in a much more loving way. I thought our aim was to encourage homebirth and not give people more of a reason to be against it and homebirth midwives.

  90. Kylie

    I have been following your story in the papers recently.
    I hope they throw the book at you!

  91. Interested nurse student

    Are you registered with AHPRA? I checked and I couldnt find you listed.

  92. Samara Faye

    I dont have children but am in the process of some pre-conception mental preparation.
    I always thought that i would love to have a baby at home in the bath. Until I started to research birthing options it had not occured to me that this may not be an option, the thought of a hospital birth or even worse a c section terrifies me. Luckily in W.A i have the option but not if anything at all is “abnormal”. I hear my friends say they think a section would be easier and that the us of pain killers are a given and it makes me sad, i wish they valued giving birth naturally more before its too late and they look back and maybe regret missing the experience. I hope in time more woman can regain confidence in thier bodies to give birth naturally.
    Love your blog, and look forward to my own home birth some day soon.
    Samara, 24

  93. Lourda

    Hi there,
    I just saw you on the news & I wanted to say that I support you 100%. I unfortunately have not had the pleasure of giving birth YET. My soul intention is to have a home-birth. I am a registered nurse & my husband a doctor(he does not agree with my intentions) I just feel that the environment in hospitals is not a place to celebrate the gift of life. I have numerous friends & also a sister who have had terrible experiences with midwifes & the strict rules that hospitals imply. I also have a friend who is a midwife that has been present for home-births where the Mum has had to be transferred to the hospital.
    Basically I feel that if the Mum (any Mum) has been given all the information available & she is of sound mind , then WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?????
    I would have you as my midwife during a homebirth anytime. Please keep strong & know that there is alot of women out there that support you xxx

  94. Louise

    News on recent decrease in the percentage of C-sections. Well, only 0,1 percent, but at least the this article shows how the public opinion is slowly changing in its view on c-sections:

    http://www.fitpregnancy.com/pregnancy/news/c-section-rate-drops

  95. Anna

    Hi Lisa,
    Just want to send a word of support during the court case. Been checking in here to see how things are going but realise you probably can’t write for legal reasons. Love to hear more from you when possible.

    Strength to you and the families involved.
    Wish you were my midwife!

  96. Peter Hill

    Hi Lisa,

    I have found your site through googling brow presentation births. My partner, and I live in Swansea, south Wales.

    I recently (6 months ago) became the father of a big strong healthy 9lb plus baby boy. He is our first child. He is doing great and so is his mother although she does not yet feel entirely “right” down below yet and I think may already have an appointment for an examination/check up in the new year.

    Our son is well bonded with us both. Perhaps he and I are already especially well bonded partly due to the fat that apart from the initial first few minutes immediately following his birth (and certainly long before his first feed at his mother`s breast) the first hour and a half of his life was spent in my arms whilst his mother had some particularly unpleasant tearing operated on at the hospital using local anaesthetic.

    My partner and I, (both in our early 40`s) were all set for a home birth with a birth pool, attending homoeopath (also a trusted friend) and of course two attending midwives. The labour was a long one, which my partner and I thought may well be the case and were prepared for. I really wanted to catch the baby, and my partner was beautiful throughout as she danced her way through labour very gracefully and actively both in and out of the pool for 12 hours. Around two thirds of the way through this time there was a change over of midwives due to shifts etc.

    It took a while each time for the “lead midwife” of the attending pair to adjust to the idea of just sitting back in the kitchen or even the settee with a cup of something and allowing nature to take it`s course.

    There were varying degrees of periodic examination and checking of blood pressure which I did`nt feel entirely comfortable with but my partner and I did allow to happen through the power of suggestion by the attending lead midwives.

    The lead midwife of the second shift of attending midwives took longer to grasp the concept of not “engaging with the birthing mother” unless requested to do so by my partner than the first. In fact she never really did. She was obviously well intentioned, visibly nervous and initially seemingly taken aback by my reminding her of the aforesaid, and her aura was not one which installed complete confidence in me of her competence.

    Eventually, we reached a stage where the lead midwife announced that upon another examination (that we had been told was advisable due to the amount of time my partner had been in labour) that she would be calling in an ambulance as the baby was apparently taking longer to recover it`s heart rate between contractions than it had been previously which was a “concern”, and that my partner needed to be dealt with in hospital.

    The reassurance of the surroundings of home was soon replaced by a period of comparative chaos and strange faces which then developed into me travelling with my now scared and distressed partner in a speeding ambulance across a busy city road system amidst late afternoon traffic. This then evolved into my partner going through the extremely distressful and excruciatingly painful process of having a forceps birth with no pain killers other than gas and air, as according to the doctor there was little time. I was at my partners head end the whole time keeping eye contact with her, breathing and pushing with her, letting her grab my arm and hang on, whatever she needed to do, she was in such pain, and so I saw very little of what was happening between my partner`s thighs.

    I experienced a feeling of profound relief like I have never done before when our son was finally passed, albeit for a very brief few minutes, to my partner`s arms, before she was taken away from us so that her tearing could be stitched.

    Our son often sleeps on his side, with his neck noticeably bent back, his chin jutting up as if he was star gazing. I have since discovered that such alignment when sleeping is typical of baby`s of brow presentation births. These are apparently unusual. How unusual? Is it possible that a normally aligned baby may be unintentionally shifted to a brow presentation position as a result of an internal examination? In such a case, would it not be better to allow gravity, i.e; the birth mother standing and moving whilst in labour, to take charge rather than the birthing mother instead lying on her back in an ambulance and then hospital along with the accompanying substantial increase in stress levels?

    I suppose all I am trying to say is that IF my partner and I were to have a second baby, I really would like to support my partner once more in having a home birth. I also would really like to assist my partner in preventing seemingly unnecessary check ups, examining and exploring with fingers and increased risk of possible change of baby position/presentation, however subtle, from taking place. I am not suggesting that such is what happened in our case and I don`t even know for certain as yet whether our son was delivered as a brow presentation. I know that he was not breech.

    What do you think Lisa?

    A few day`s after returning home from hospital, as well as the scheduled visits from an appointed midwife (who was absolutely lovely but did not attend the actual birth) my partner also received one unexpected and unscheduled visit from the lead midwife that did attend the birth and called in the ambulance. She was not in uniform and said to my partner that she just was calling by and wanted to check in and see how mother and baby were doing.

    This seems unusual.

    Whatever happened, things happened the way that they did, simple as, and nothing can be changed about that. I am not looking to apportion blame now. However I do feel that perhaps we may have resisted “consenting” to as many check ups, internal examinations etc as we did.

    Anyway, you seem to be coming from an honourable place, and my understanding is that you possess a wealth of experiential learning that my partner and I could draw from. Your site is definitely needed, is a valuable information and experience sharing resource. I don`t get to a computer much but I intend to support your site.

    Warmly,

    Peter

  97. belinda henkel

    Where is Lisa? How is Lisa? Good Luck Lisa..
    My inner Midwife sounds Welsh…How did that happen??
    and another thing…have you seen Petra Kvitova’s Pelivis(tennis player). I think it is anthropoid……Yeh? i hope I learned my lessons well in geelong.

  98. Anna

    Hi Lisa,

    Could you please enlighten us on your understanding of the predictive value of contractions in the first stage of breech births? Michel Odent and others mention this is a good indicator of whether or not the contractions in second stage will be effective enough, what is your experience?

    Thanks
    And any updates on legal situation would be great. Thanks for standing up for women and babies.
    Anna

  99. kylie

    Hi lisa hope your well,
    Something to think about. A while ago my GP diagnosed me with PTSD due to birth trauma and unethical behavour on the hospitals part. I thought that was brave and honest. So a little while ago went to phyciatrist to try and cope with this and regain strength only for him to turn around and say my condition was not due to what the hospital or doctors did but because I suffered from OCD and not PTSD. What the hell? Is there A doctor out there that is not full of poop?

  100. kylie

    Hey lisa are you ok? Everything has gone really quiet. I hope your all ok.